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[legionersv]

Ок. Попробую добавить эти позиции.

[acvulture]

Ну что, все уже успели поплакать над ценами на новых Дарк Энжелов? xD

[cirnolol]

 

[legionersv]

Что там? Что с ценами?

[Omen]

Они дорогие, оченна. Мне так то фиолетово на ДА, но тенденция настораживает

[legionersv]

Посмотрел цены. Некисло!

[acvulture]

Они дорогие, оченна. Мне так то фиолетово на ДА, но тенденция настораживает

Вот, вот. Вангую релиз бладов через годик-два с ценами 50 фунтов минимум.

[Шаадан]

Вопрос легионер можешь убрать последнюю позицию, барракуда?

[Alex Fox]

Ну учитывая что бладов что то в поза-прошлом году релизнули, то перерелиз будет лет через года 4. А вот маринов да, скоро должны переиздать и наверное так же по завышенным ценам...

[Omen]

демонюги, тау, эльдары, ваниль и темплары с сестрами, всем страдать!

[legionersv]

Для информации. Аллегрис на Мясницкой закрылся.

[Sobakaa]

Вот и славненько. Ещё бы в целом аллегрис закрылся.

[acvulture]

Кодекс ДА уже в магазинах, появляется более точная инфа по поводу юнитов.

Спойлер

Here's the latest:

Collated by Faeit 212 (1-9-2013)

- The special rule "Inner Circle" gives hatred against Chaos Space Marines and Courage.
- The table of Warlord includes options to increase the turboboost of bikes, +1 / -1 to the roll of reserves etc...
- Belial can change their weapons as before. And yes, he does make Terminators troops.
- Sammael makes RW bikes troops as, also.
- Azrael gains +2S and AP3 for his sword. makes both RW and DW troops.
- No specific psychic Dark Angels. Ezekiel has a power that is S4 AP 2, D3 shots, I believe.

Deathwing Knights
- +1 To their Toughness if they are base to base.

Land Speeder Revenge
- The Plasma Storm Battery is S7 AP2, 3 small blast or 1 large blast.

Land Speeder Shroud (80 pts)
- Has the dark rule, which gives +2 to it's cover save.
- A 6 "units gain Stealth.

Ram Ravenwing
- Rift Cannon: Strength 5, AP-, blast, blindness.

Nephilim (about 150/160 pts) According to Warseer 180.
- Avenger Mega Bolter: Strength 6, AP4, heavy 5
- Missiles : Strength 6, AP4
- Unrelenting Hunter: Allows exchanging a result of the enemy weaponry destroyed by an immobilized result.

Black Knights Ravenwing (126 unit 3)
- Hammer Corvus: Strength +1, AP-, Rending.
- Plasma Talons 18" plasma guns.

Command Squad Ravenwing.
- Same points as the Black Knights.

Ravenwing (80 points a unit of 3)

via Baret
80 points for a 3man bike squad! 27 points for each additional member. They still come with scouts, have special combat squad splitting (3/3 bikes and the AB and speeder separately (so 3 scoring and a vehicle). 126 points base for those fancy command bikes, their plasma is only 18" though..


Termie squads are 210, have split fire rules, can take 10 members with heavy weapons per 5. They are 44 Points for each additional member.

Everything has a version of stubborn.

via Archibald_TK on Warseer
(the one where we got some infos during the SoB WD release). I was reluctant to post them as the other posters in the thread mentioned it comes from a new rumourmonger but after seeing what the German forum says I suppose they may be true (or they may be coming from the same source so salt and all of that)


A brief summary of what we didn't know before:
- Azrael giving 4++ to his squad; has a S6 P3 weapon
- Warlord table gives +1d6 to turboboost distance/reroll running roll to the Warlord unit, furious charge, +1/-1 to reserve rolls, fearless, he mentions one giving "insensible" which I cannot translate as it's not a rule I know, it sounds like the beginning of the French FnP rule "insensible ? la douleur" but I highly doubt he was referring to that
- Nephilim close to 160 pts with upgrade, gatling gun same sucky stats as discussed before
- The weapon of the Deathwing Knights champion is +2S AP3 and cannot be switched for something else
- Inner Circle mentioned as being Fearless, Hate (CSM) like in the other rumour
- Caliban Halberd +2S AP2 strikes at Init
- Access to Divination
- He mention later that while he didn't really check for that, the little boxes that you usually see in the army list allowing to switch FOC slots, he only remember them next to the 3 SC

via chizal on Warseer

In store atm with the codex. all i said is conformed. bane of the traitor(-1ap vs c:csm in cc) is deathwing knights weapons only .

Neph fighter is 180 with either weapon option

azrael does unlock both wings as troops
He has to be in the primary detachment

Also inner circle is fearless and PE c:csm
Blade of caliban is str+1 ap3 unwieldy but a lot cheaper then a normal pweapon

cammand squads are fixed number and can be taken 1 per hq of the same type

Special items include conversion and displacer and power fields. random stat monster slayer power sword and a weapon thats str+3ap3 bane blind concusive

Armoury in the codex called the armory of the rock. also small tidbit is all missle launchers can be upgraded to flak apart fron the whirlwind which got screwed. also dev squad are super cheap. 5man squad with 4 multi meltas 110pts lol



Are the fixed numbers 5-man for Deathwing and 3-man for Ravenwing?
Correct 5&3


Black sword missiles S6 AP4? It wasnt the megabolter with these stats?
both have those stats. bolter r48 missles r36 also rhe fighter has missle lock spacial rule i. the army list but has no blast missle. some silly mistake as it makes no sense we hope


belial 190 any load out
land raiders with deathwing vehicle now have the venerable rule so may reroll pen results


do Land Raiders have to pay extra to get the deathwing vehicle rule?
30 extra and has to have it

No storms. no homers on scouts.chaps &libs can take bikes. only gramd master unlock troops. can have a techmarine per hq taken


Do standard bikers have Skilled Rider?
Nope only black knights


Veng strike gives all models twin linked shots the turn they deepstrike
smite is str+6 ap2 one use. Doesnt say if it to one attack or all that turn.
The fighter has missle lock in the points section at the back but does not have any blast missles so must be a mis pri t.
The deathwing vehicle rule is just anotber name for venerable


If it says something like “Once per game the DW knights can make an attack at ……….” People would start questioning is that in addition to normal attacks? Does it get used for all attacks? Does it replace their attacks with one attack?
Here’s hoping we don’t need to argue about it for 2 months…….
It has its own sub profile str+6ap2 melee one use only


What about named characters?
Same old 5. Some new rules like azrael can choose his warlord trait from the 6 new ones. unlocks both wings as troops. also him or belial lets you not scatter with his unit when deepstriking. had to leave and there was no way to sneak the book out the store

Ezeke is mastery 3 has to take mindworm and then rolls twice on any except biomancy

Chaplain one gets instant death in melee but no ap or his crozius

oh and samiel is the only eternal warrior again

Company Veteran Squad 90
Wargear:
power armour
boltguns
bolt pistols
frag grenades
krak grenades
Special rules:
And they shall know no fear
Combat squad
(something can't make it out)
options:
Add up to an additional 5 veterans 18pts
May exchange bolterguns for chainswords Free
Up to three veterans may exchange their bolt guns for one of the following:
storm bolter 5 pts
combie weapon 10 pts
power weapon, single lightning claw or plasma pistol 15 pts
power fist 25pts
Pair of lightning claws 30 pts
Any veteran may take:
combat shields 3pts
metla-bombs 5 pts
storm shields 10 pts
For every 5 veterans in the unit can exchange one mans bolter for:
flamer 5 pts
meltagun 10 pts
plasma gun 15 pts
one veteran may exchange his bolter for one of the following:
heavybolter 10 pts
multimelta 10 pts
missle launcher (frag and krak missles) 15 pts
(upgrade to flakk missles) 10 pts
plasma cannon 15 pts
lascannon 20 pts
may take a drop pod, rhino or razer back as dedicated transport

Talons r18 twin linked rapid fire plasmas. the grenade launchers are evil. knights can take one every 3 bikes. rad grenades are s3 ap- but units hit are -1t fir the turn. stasis grenades no damage but -1ws&i for the turn.

deathwing assault means you decide in secret which units come in turn one or turn two. no need to roll for reserves and its not just half your dwing but any amount

Рекап: флаеры просто не о чем, стоят дорого по деньгам, стоят дорого по очкам и ничего не умеют толком. Уродливый спидер, по правилам - лютый вин либо раздает всем в 6" стелс либо снабжен плазма пушкой которая стреляет либо 3 раза бластом либо 1 раз лардж бластом.  Обычные терми по 44 очка имеют в нагрузку какихто тематичных правил, отряды до 10, могут брать плазма кэнон и делить огонь, могут брать лр дедикейтедом. ЛР может быть веником. Десвинг кнайты по правилам вроде неплохи, лишь бы цена в очках была адекватной. Байки - лютый вин 80 очков базовый отряд 3 рыла, до 6 рыл+аб+спидер могут комбат сквадится, имеют правило скаут. Равенвинг кнайты снабжены ццв с5 ап- рендинг и 18" линканутыми плазмаганами 126 очей базовый отряд, могут брать аптекария и знамя, могут брать гренейд лаунчеры которые стреляют либо с3 при попадании юнит получает -1 тафну, либо без урона при попадании юнит получает -1вс и -1 инициативу. Так же в слухах мелькает большое количество тематичного силового оружия для ДА. И в конце просто невероятно дешевые девастаторы - по утверждению интернетов 110 очков за 4 ммельты.

[acvulture]

И еще немного инфы

Conversion fields are 4+ Inv. At the end of any phase where a save was made nearby units test for blind.
Displacer 3++, at the end of the phase scatter D6"
Power fields give models within 3" a 4++

Monster slayer is a power weapon, roll D6: 2-4 +1STR, 5-6 +2STR and Instant Death.

There is a combi plasma with Assault1 Blast plasma part and an assault 3, AP4 storm Bolter there too.
I like the Mace of Redemption. Str+3, AP3, Blind, concussive, AP2 vs C:CSM.
There is also an item for FnP and shrouded.

Ezekiel looks legit. Models near him get +1WS and he has the de-buff which may be nice on big stuff. He's mastery 3 so you still get 2 more powers too.

We know Ravensword is AP2

Asmodai has Blades of reason again!
Str as user, AP- Instant death, Specialist weapon.

Azrael got FnP (6+)! hehe.
His plasma gun also has Blind USR.

All Landspeeders have Deep Strike too.

belial S4, T4, I5, 3W, 3A +1WS 15 points cheaper than now

[cirnolol]

Полом к нам приходит ^^ Да и беля за 115 очков это очень жирно